[JimmyJohnLee]

Here is a false doctrine on Angel Michael, who is really an angel and warrior that is under gods command, and performs feats of fighting demons, sinners, and the devil, now, as it goes, their is corrupt religions that are trying to teach this, and we should be avoiding them, their obviously is no evidence of Jesus being an angel, scripture does not say anything, theirs no interactive proof, medium proof, or even ancient proof, so the conclusion of Jesus being the angel Micah is obviously false doctrine and a made up sick and twisted bunch of nonsense.

https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don_stewart/don_stewart_24.cfm#:~:text=There%20is%20no%20biblical%20evidence%20to%20equate%20Michael,Second%20Person%20of%20the%20Trinity%2C%20God%20the%20Son.

https://www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/book/e/85/t/who-is-michael-the-archangel-

[HKGS GeoSwas]

Lets get a few thing out of the way so you can have a clear cut understanding. This entire business of Jesus being the Archangel Michael is a lie out of hell, it’s a false doctrine that the Jehovah’s Religion/Cult teaches, and I’m sure there’s some other scrub religion that teach this abomination. That’s first and foremost.

No where in the holy scriptures states, nor teach that Jesus was or is the Archangel Michael. , Moses, the holy prophets didn’t teach it, Jesus never stated anything, including his parables that he was an Archangel Michael. The Apostles never made such a claim, not did they teach it. The JW Cult teaches that Jesus is a god; they believe in two gods. when scripture clearly states God is ONE.

Lastly, In Hebrew – Adonai Elohim Yeshua Hamashiach. Jesus is Lord! Jesus is Adonai. Jesus is I AM, Jesus is the Messiah, Jesus is YHVH. When you see the Son, you see the Father, Hence, Jesus is Lord and God. Jesus is He. God our Father is Him, Jesus is The Word. Jesus is the Creator. Jesus is the Bread of Life. Jesus is the Rock, Jesus is the Way. Jesus is the Truth. Jesus is the Life, Jesus is the Holy One. Glory to the Father. Jesus is the Blessed Hope, Jesus is I AM all those things described in the scriptures THAT I AM and no one can to be all things that I AM.

Jesus came in His Father’s Name. Glory to God, Jesus is the Beginning and the End of all things, Jesus is the Lamb of God, Jesus is the Lion of Judah, Jesus is the King of Kings Lord of Lord, Jesus is the High Priest. Jesus is the JUDGE upon the His Throne, Jesus is Emanuel, Jesus is Wonderful, Jesus is Counselor, Jesus is the Mighty God, Jesus is the Everlasting Father, Jesus is The Prince of Peace.

I know it’s an unrealistic exception, but I think you get the point. There are many more titles but I’ll stop here. Lets continue. I’m going to soak you real good.

John 1:1-2, Hebrews 1:5-8, Revelation 19:13
Hebrews 1 verse 5 alone just destroys that false teaching that Jesus is the Archangel Michael. Glory to God. Pay attention to the language of scripture. WHICH of THE ANGELS DID HE SAY AT ANY TIME, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? In verses 6 and 7 He continues to ask questions.

Look at verse 8 in Hebrews, What dose it say? But on to the what? SON! He saith (says) Thy (You’re) throne, O’ God, STOP! What did the Father just call His Son? God!

8. But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

To narrow it down to simple terms, The Father is drawing a distinction between all angles and His Son so there can be no confusion

John 1:1-2 KJV
<1> In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. <2> The same was in the beginning with God.

Hebrews 1:5-8 KJV
<5> For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? <6> And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. <7> And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. <8> But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Revelation 19:13 KJV
<13> And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

THE SCRIPTURE SPEAK PLAIN; EASY TO UNDERSTAND.

Hosea 4:6 KJV
<6> My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

Jeremiah 23:36 KJV
<36> And the burden of the Lord shall ye mention no more: for every man’s word shall be his burden; for ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the Lord of hosts our God.

2 Timothy 4:3-4 KJV
<3> For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; <4> And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

2 Peter 3:15-16 KJV
<15> And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; <16> As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Psalm 116:11 KJV
<11> I said in my haste, All men are liars.

[HKGS GeoSwas]

What report is that you, yourself, not we, don’t understand? In Isaiah chapter 53, the prophet Isiah is prophesying about the Lord Jesus Christ. It has nothing, nor does it have any relevance on the topic. You’re just picking out verses at random for the sake to show something. The reports about the prophecies made about the Messiah.

This verse is part of a prophecy about the suffering servant, referring to Jesus Christ. It emphasizes the disbelief and rejection faced by the servant despite the profound impact of his sacrifice. The “arm of the LORD” represents divine power and revelation. Isaiah 53 beautifully portrays the redemptive work of Christ, who bore our sins and sorrows. That in itself, has zero to do with the Arch Angle Michael.

Below, I left Isiah 53 and it’s only 12 verses, easy to read and understand.

Isiah 53:1-12 KJV
1 Who hath believed our report?
and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed?
2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant,
and as a root out of a dry ground:
he hath no form nor comeliness;
and when we shall see him,
there is no beauty that we should desire him.
3 He is despised and rejected of men;
a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief:
and we hid as it were our faces from him;
he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
4 Surely he hath borne our griefs,
and carried our sorrows:
yet we did esteem him stricken,
smitten of God, and afflicted.
5 But he was wounded for our transgressions,
he was bruised for our iniquities:
the chastisement of our peace was upon him;
and with his stripes we are healed.
6 All we like sheep have gone astray;
we have turned every one to his own way;
and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted,
yet he opened not his mouth:
he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter,
and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb,
so he openeth not his mouth.
8 He was taken from prison and from judgment:
and who shall declare his generation?
for he was cut off out of the land of the living:
for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
9 And he made his grave with the wicked,
and with the rich in his death;
because he had done no violence,
neither was any deceit in his mouth.
10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him;
he hath put him to grief:
when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin,
he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days,
and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.
11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied:
by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many;
for he shall bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great,
and he shall divide the spoil with the strong;
because he hath poured out his soul unto death:
and he was numbered with the transgressors;
and he bare the sin of many,
and made intercession for the transgressors

[HKGS GeoSwas]

Psalm 116 verse 11 has no reference to the topic nor the prophecy of Isiah. This just tells me that you haven’t read the entire chapter. But it does fit what you say, because nothing you say is relevant nor true nor is it based on scripture. You have the all the verses from Isaiah 53 above. At this point, you’re just off topic and your not arguing not defending any point other than some dude is a liar. You go off on a tangent about “theirs no interactive proof, medium proof, or even ancient proof” and yet, you still refuse to understand that all the proof you need is in the holy scripture.

[HKGS GeoSwas]

We, Who’s we? I proved beyond any doubt what Isiah 53 is about by using scripture. I, not we. Don’t use we. You took the first verse of Isiah in chapter 53 to prove what? Again, Isiah chapter 53 has nothing to do with the Archangel Michael. I’ve already explained it. Lastly, the purpose of a topic discussion or debate is to present an argument based on a topic that you’re for or against. That the point of any discussion or debate.

An argument doesn’t always mean fighting. When two men are given a topic, they have for formulate an argument for or again that set topic. That’s called arguing a point or arguing points. Either your argument is solid and convincing or is flawed and full of holes.

Lastly, yes, I’m well aware that people take scripture and wrested and pervert the word of God. Some, even, are very convincing. Many people buy into lies and hold it as truth and defend it. Even if you show scripture, they’ll tell you yes, but you don’t understand what it says or means. Again, I’m well aware. But the question is, are you? I’m not referring to this topic alone.

[HKGS GeoSwas]

That’s not what scripture says nor teaches. Furthermore, this topic has been discussed and proven to be false. Furthermore, it’s not our job to condemn anyone, much less to hell. That’s not our job not function. We were told in scripture to preach the gospel through the world, to every creature, meaning people. If people choose not to listen, or ignore it, or blow it off, or mock it, or contradicted, or twist it, pervert it, or anything else other than accepting the gospel of Christ, that falls on them. We are not here to play god and start condemning anyone. If you think about it, people condemned themselves.

Christ Jesus sets us fee from sin. However, people choose to live in darkness, meaning, choose too ignore the truth of God, and continue in sin either by choice or ignorance.

John 8:36 KJV
36. If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

I suggest reading it in context. Regardless of topic discussions, scripture has all the answers. That, however, doesn’t mean that you or anyone who reads will understand. Refer to Isaiah 6:9.

9. And he said, Go, and tell this people,
Hear ye indeed, but understand not;
and see ye indeed, but perceive not.

Verse 10 of Isiah 6 says the following
10. Make the heart of this people fat,
and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes;
lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears,
and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.

You and I, through out the years, have gone back and forth. You given me your views, opinions and thoughts and I’ve given you scripture straight from the holy bible. When everything is said and done, you have only two choices 1) you can choose not to listen, or ignore it, or blow it off, or mock it, or contradicted, or twist it, pervert it, or anything else under the sun. Or 2) You can listen to what God has to say in the scriptures by reading and share the gospel with whomever you come across.

Matthew 28:19-20 KJV
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen

Mark 16-15 KJV
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

John 14:45-47 KJV
45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, 46 and said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: 47 and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

Romans 1:20 KJV
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.

The holy bible consist of 66 books, over 33K verses in which it’s Factual, Historical, Symbolic, Prophetical and True. Most everyone in the world has access to the scriptures. All you have to do is read.

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